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> Always rich or constantly poor, Enabling factors
 
Which factor?
• cold climate [ 4 ]  [11.76%]
• environmental standards [ 2 ]  [5.88%]
• health [ 4 ]  [11.76%]
• gender equality [ 1 ]  [2.94%]
• height (e.g. the fact that Norwegian economy is so robust has been ascribed to the fact that the Norwegians are amongst the tallest people in Europe) [ 2 ]  [5.88%]
• demographic deficit [ 4 ]  [11.76%]
• religion – it’s apparently better to live in a predominantly Protestant than a Catholic state [ 9 ]  [26.47%]
• high level of literacy [ 6 ]  [17.65%]
• low inflation [ 2 ]  [5.88%]
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post 2/03/2009, 3:38 Quote Post

Having over the last few years read a number of books on sociology, economics and risk management I have come across quite a range of different factors which scholars have seen as determining whether a given nation is rich or remains poor. Some of these 'findings', even those which raise your eyebrows, have been listed in the above survey. What do you think about these determinants? Do they reflect reality or should they be taken with a pinch of salt?
 
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post 2/03/2009, 22:18 Quote Post

Interesting list. I've heard about most of these factors that are considered in this discussion, but only few of them sound really convincing.

I think the best theory is connected with demographic growth, mostly because it's supported by exogenous growth model (or Solow-Swan growth model). This theory is based on several empirical evidence but of course there are other factors outside the model that couldn't be described by it. In comparison to other theories presented here there are simply more proofs for this one.
 
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post 19/07/2009, 11:29 Quote Post

I'd opt for religion.

Look around - the biggest European economics and financial powers that be are mostly protestant (e.g the UK, all Scandinavian countries, Germany etc.). Their top - notch economics is determined directly by the religion; it actually encourages to hard work, in order to be granted with profits. Catholic religion relies more on God's goodwill and doesn't request such a lifestyle from the followers.

Not speaking of the Muslim nations - their dogma is "Allah will give" and so the people do not see the need for working.


Apologies for possible mistakes - ain't that good with English yet wink.gif
 
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post 19/07/2009, 11:37 Quote Post

I would vote for a factor, that hasn't been mentioned above. And that is good laws and good tax system...
 
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post 20/07/2009, 10:54 Quote Post

Well... I know it's your opinion and argument is none of my interest but I wouldn't agree.

To make good law system work, you need a strong and well-organized law enforcement apparatus. In constantly poor countries, mostly African (e.g. Somalia, Nigeria) such an institution doesn't even exist anywhere apart from paper and constitution. Rebel or mafia militias have turned into semi-regular armies, that can't be defeated by tax system or paper-laws only.

Although I know, that laws and taxation help to keep the nation's or country's economics good enough to describe it as "rich".
 
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post 21/07/2009, 20:34 Quote Post

It's hard to say but I think that the most important things for instance nation is high level of health care and education.
In modern world, the richest countries are countries with the most modern economies where a main role is playing sector of services.
 
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post 22/07/2009, 20:26 Quote Post

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Enabling factor for what? For being always rich, or constantly poor? wink.gif
 
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post 24/07/2009, 22:02 Quote Post

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Enabling factor for what? For being always rich, or constantly poor? wink.gif
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Ummm... I think that the word "enabling" is not the best-suiting one, "determining" is much better IMHO.

And the answer to your question - both, I'd say wink.gif
 
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post 26/07/2009, 1:59 Quote Post

I was about to click "cold climate" ... It was very tempting but then back in my head voice said: how about Iceland and don't forget, more or less one third of Russia territory qualifies for "cold climate". Therefore this option is no too appealing.

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post 26/07/2009, 13:02 Quote Post

QUOTE(Net_Skater @ 26/07/2009, 2:59)
I was about to click "cold climate" ... It was very tempting but then back in my head voice said: how about Iceland and don't forget, more or less one third of Russia territory qualifies for "cold climate". Therefore this option is no too appealing.

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But on the other hand "warm climate" may be treated as a reason for slow development of countries that lie on the Equator. All of these options that are discussed may be correct - but most of them have only minor influence on economy and society.

It's important to realise that correlation doesn't always mean cause & effect relationship.
 
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post 26/07/2009, 17:27 Quote Post

Considering the location of countries with the highest GDP per capita, there are following relevant conclusions:
- predominantly Western Europe or states being the English colonies in the past, with culture thoroughly adapting values imported from UK or Western Europe(USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel)
- Pacific coast of Asia - Japan, Taiwan, Southern Korea, Singapore. Richness owing lots to hard-working mentality, discipline and loyalty towards superiors

If one intends to derive economic development from climate conditions, the two mentioned areas should be considered, along with the way Western values influenced countries of the Far East.
 
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post 31/07/2009, 18:09 Quote Post

So you mean that the most appropriate factor is the people's mentality or obedience combined with hard working, right? Notice that it hasn't been mentioned in the survey above, but that's a good point wink.gif

Although it all takes its origins from religion - that's why I ticked that one.

BTW - about those UK colonies you mentioned, check India out. It was a British colony, nevertheless it hasn't achieved such a level of welfare - maybe in the future, who can say anymore wink.gif
 
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post 16/08/2009, 14:29 Quote Post

QUOTE(krzystofer @ 26/07/2009, 18:27)
- predominantly Western Europe or states being the English colonies in the past, with culture thoroughly adapting values imported from UK or Western Europe(USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel)


I'm not really convinced that it's mostly a matter of culture and values. I think that key aspect here was implementing developed organisational procedures adopted from UK, bureaucracy in general and international trade.

Such fusion of two different cultures is always beneficial for both sides in terms of innovation & development. The same with East Asia - most of its tigers were born thanks to the cooperation with major countries of the occident.
 
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post 17/08/2009, 19:47 Quote Post

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I'm not really convinced that it's mostly a matter of culture and values. I think that key aspect here was implementing developed organisational procedures adopted from UK, bureaucracy in general and international trade.


Be that as it may, why then comparable level of richness has not been achieved by other British colonies, e.g. India or Pakistan ?
I reckon India is usually mentioned as a state which administration so fluently adopted British procedures. However, its culture left much to be desired, if brought up to British efficiency standards.
 
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Be that as it may, why then comparable level of richness has not been achieved by other British colonies, e.g. India or Pakistan ?
I reckon India is usually mentioned as a state which administration so fluently adopted British procedures. However, its culture left much to be desired, if brought up to British efficiency standards.
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Well... speaking about India, it is now fourth largest economy in the world by purchasing power parity with very strong growth. Main influence of western powers in this area was in modern India, not in Pakistan - this country was still based on agriculture after II world war. But it took the same path as India did and now Pakistan is growing rapidly.

The other thing about India that it has very close links with American and European economy (e.g. call centers, well-skilled IT specialists). Their educated labour force is a strong basis for future growth.
 
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