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post 17/09/2020, 13:08 Quote Post

QUOTE(Michał.. @ 17/09/2020, 12:54)
Była już o tym mowa:
http://www.historycy.org/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1815880
R1a1a1b1a2b3a to R1a-CTS3402, co oczywiście nie wyklucza ani L365 ani żadnego innego subkladu poniżej CTS3402.
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Domen, to pobierz jeszcze VK274...
 
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post 17/09/2020, 13:18 Quote Post

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Domen, to pobierz jeszcze VK274...


Ok, tu jest chyba kompletna lista próbek wraz z lokalizacjami:

VK315 Denmark_Bakkendrup Grav 16
VK369 Denmark_Bakkendrup losfund-2, conc.1
VK294 Denmark_Bakkendrup losfund-2, conc.5
VK281 Denmark_Barse Grav A
VK298 Denmark_Besser Grav III
VK291 Denmark_Bodkergarden Grav D, sk 1
VK289 Denmark_Bodkergarden Grav H, sk 1
VK364 Denmark_Bogovej BN
VK365 Denmark_Bogovej BS
VK363 Denmark_Bogovej BT
VK361 Denmark_Bogovej BX
VK366 Denmark_Bogovej BY
VK367 Denmark_Bogovej D
VK292 Denmark_Bogovej Grav A.D.
VK288 Denmark_Bogovej Grav BA
VK286 Denmark_Bogovej Grav BJ
VK338 Denmark_Bogovej Grav BV
VK320 Denmark_Bogovej Grav S
VK362 Denmark_Bogovej LMR 12077
VK368 Denmark_Bogovej T
VK135 Denmark_Galgedil ALY
VK134 Denmark_Galgedil ALZ
VK139 Denmark_Galgedil ANG
VK370 Denmark_Galgedil ANO
VK138 Denmark_Galgedil AQQ
VK279 Denmark_Galgedil AXE
VK373 Denmark_Galgedil BER
VK372 Denmark_Galgedil KM
VK133 Denmark_Galgedil KO
VK446 Denmark_Galgedil LS
VK141 Denmark_Galgedil OMB/BFQ
VK140 Denmark_Galgedil PT
VK278 Denmark_Galgedil TQ
VK411 Denmark_Galgedil TT
VK371 Denmark_Galgedil UD-Vest
VK280 Denmark_Galgedil UO
VK213 Denmark_Gerdrup-A10
VK214 Denmark_Gerdrup-A12
VK215 Denmark_Gerdrup-B; sk 1
VK216 Denmark_Gerdrup-B; sk 2
VK94 Denmark_GI Lejre-A1861
VK445 Denmark_Gl Lejre-A1896
VK284 Denmark_Grydehoj A2058
VK383 Denmark_Hesselbjerg Grav 11, sk DT
VK86 Denmark_Hesselbjerg Grav 13
VK384 Denmark_Hesselbjerg Grav 14, sk EU
VK339 Denmark_Hesselbjerg Grav 16, sk GO
VK300 Denmark_Hesselbjerg Grav 22, sk IR
VK84 Denmark_Hesselbjerg Grav 3
VK87 Denmark_Hesselbjerg Grav 41b, sk PC
VK340 Denmark_Hesselbjerg Grav 5, sk V
VK318 Denmark_Hesselbjergmarken Grav B
VK295 Denmark_Hessum sk 1
VK316 Denmark_Hessum sk II
VK296 Denmark_Hundstrup Mose sk 1
VK297 Denmark_Hundstrup Mose sk 2
VK275 Denmark_Kaargarden 217
VK274 Denmark_Kaargarden 391
VK276 Denmark_Kaargarden BH
VK317 Denmark_Kaargarden Grav BF99
VK287 Denmark_Kaargarden Grav BS
VK285 Denmark_Kaargarden Grav BZ
VK290 Denmark_Kumle Hoje Grav O
VK319 Denmark_Ladby Grav 2
VK301 Denmark_Ladby Grav 4
VK385 Denmark_Lejre Grav 321
VK247 Denmark_Lejre Grav 804
VK90 Denmark_Lejre Grav 902
VK92 Denmark_Lejre Grav 935
VK312 Denmark_Rantzausminde Grav 1
VK313 Denmark_Rantzausminde Grav 2
VK314 Denmark_Rantzausminde Grav 5
VK322 Denmark_Ribe 1
VK323 Denmark_Ribe 2
VK324 Denmark_Ribe 3
VK325 Denmark_Ribe 4
VK326 Denmark_Ribe 5
VK327 Denmark_Ribe 6
VK328 Denmark_Ribe 7
VK329 Denmark_Ribe 8
VK330 Denmark_Ribe 9
VK282 Denmark_Stengade I, LMR c195
VK65 Denmark_Tollemosegard-BQ
VK71 Denmark_Tollemosegard-BU
VK69 Denmark_Tollemosegard-DS
VK70 Denmark_Tollemosegard-EW
VK504 Estonia_Salme_I-1
VK505 Estonia_Salme_I-2
VK506 Estonia_Salme_I-3
VK507 Estonia_Salme_I-4
VK508 Estonia_Salme_I-5
VK509 Estonia_Salme_I-6
VK510 Estonia_Salme_I-7
VK512 Estonia_Salme_II-Ü
VK489 Estonia_Salme_II-Ä
VK491 Estonia_Salme_II-Õ
VK497 Estonia_Salme_II-Ö
VK493 Estonia_Salme_II-Š
VK487 Estonia_Salme_II-A
VK492 Estonia_Salme_II-B
VK495 Estonia_Salme_II-C
VK550 Estonia_Salme_II-D
VK480 Estonia_Salme_II-E
VK481 Estonia_Salme_II-F
VK486 Estonia_Salme_II-G
VK488 Estonia_Salme_II-H
VK555 Estonia_Salme_II-I
VK549 Estonia_Salme_II-J
VK552 Estonia_Salme_II-K
VK554 Estonia_Salme_II-L
VK553 Estonia_Salme_II-M
VK490 Estonia_Salme_II-N
VK485 Estonia_Salme_II-O
VK482 Estonia_Salme_II-P
VK484 Estonia_Salme_II-Q
VK551 Estonia_Salme_II-U
VK483 Estonia_Salme_II-V
VK496 Estonia_Salme_II-W
VK511 Estonia_Salme_II-X
VK498 Estonia_Salme_II-Z
VK25 Faroe_1
VK27 Faroe_10
VK244 Faroe_12
VK241 Faroe_13
VK236 Faroe_14
VK237 Faroe_15
VK245 Faroe_16
VK44 Faroe_17
VK45 Faroe_18
VK46 Faroe_19
VK234 Faroe_2
VK248 Faroe_22
VK242 Faroe_3
VK238 Faroe_4
VK239 Faroe_5
VK240 Faroe_6
VK24 Faroe_AS34/Panum
VK56 Gotland_Frojel-001A98
VK428 Gotland_Frojel-00287
VK432 Gotland_Frojel-00303
VK440 Gotland_Frojel-003A88
VK431 Gotland_Frojel-00487A
VK430 Gotland_Frojel-00502
VK60 Gotland_Frojel-00702
VK434 Gotland_Frojel-01288
VK63 Gotland_Frojel-01499
VK429 Gotland_Frojel-01599
VK433 Gotland_Frojel-01798
VK463 Gotland_Frojel-019A89
VK464 Gotland_Frojel-019B89
VK459 Gotland_Frojel-02198
VK437 Gotland_Frojel-02303
VK456 Gotland_Frojel-02404
VK439 Gotland_Frojel-02498
VK435 Gotland_Frojel-02500
VK461 Gotland_Frojel-025A89
VK462 Gotland_Frojel-025B89
VK457 Gotland_Frojel-03299_1
VK458 Gotland_Frojel-03299_3
VK441 Gotland_Frojel-032A98
VK455 Gotland_Frojel-03401
VK64 Gotland_Frojel-03504
VK57 Gotland_Frojel-03601
VK58 Gotland_Frojel-03604
VK438 Gotland_Frojel-04498
VK460 Gotland_Frojel-04898
VK452 Gotland_Kopparsvik-111
VK472 Gotland_Kopparsvik-112
VK473 Gotland_Kopparsvik-126
VK453 Gotland_Kopparsvik-134
VK474 Gotland_Kopparsvik-137
VK454 Gotland_Kopparsvik-140
VK53 Gotland_Kopparsvik-161/65
VK467 Gotland_Kopparsvik-181
VK475 Gotland_Kopparsvik-187
VK48 Gotland_Kopparsvik-212/65
VK476 Gotland_Kopparsvik-225
VK477 Gotland_Kopparsvik-228
VK468 Gotland_Kopparsvik-235
VK232 Gotland_Kopparsvik-240.65
VK469 Gotland_Kopparsvik-260
VK478 Gotland_Kopparsvik-271
VK479 Gotland_Kopparsvik-272
VK251 Gotland_Kopparsvik-30.64
VK450 Gotland_Kopparsvik-35
VK50 Gotland_Kopparsvik-53.64
VK471 Gotland_Kopparsvik-63
VK51 Gotland_Kopparsvik-88/64
VK179 Greenland F2
VK180 Greenland F3
VK182 Greenland F5
VK183 Greenland F6
VK184 Greenland F7
VK513 Greenland F8
VK185 Greenland F9
VK186 Greenland KNK-[6]
VK187 Greenland KNK-[80]
VK74 Greenland late-0928
VK75 Greenland late-0929
VK196 Greenland late-0947_V051
VK76 Greenland late-0957
VK77 Greenland late-0959
VK78 Greenland late-0960
VK189 Greenland late-0992
VK190 Greenland late-0996
VK191 Greenland late-1000
VK193 Greenland late-1061
VK9 Greenland_530
VK11 Greenland_532
VK1 Greenland_677
VK6 Greenland_678
VK98 Iceland_083
VK99 Iceland_104
VK110 Iceland_115S
VK111 Iceland_118
VK101 Iceland_125
VK95 Iceland_127
VK102 Iceland_128
VK225 Iceland_A108
VK122 Iceland_A114
VK226 Iceland_A115-N
VK227 Iceland_A117
VK228 Iceland_A120
VK230 Iceland_A123
VK127 Iceland_HDR08
VK128 Iceland_HDR111
VK129 Iceland_ING08
VK123 Iceland_X104
VK546 Ireland_08E693
VK543 Ireland_EP55
VK544 Ireland_FG254
VK545 Ireland_SSG12
VK170 Isle-of-Man_Balladoole
VK536 Italy_Foggia-1240
VK537 Italy_Foggia-1248
VK538 Italy_Foggia-1249
VK534 Italy_Foggia-869
VK535 Italy_Foggia-891
VK532 Kragehave Odetofter XL718
VK420 Norway_Hedmark 2813
VK448 Norway_Hedmark 4005
VK393 Norway_Hedmark 4006
VK422 Norway_Hedmark 4304
VK394 Norway_Hedmark 4460
VK548 Norway_Nord-Trondelag 3705
VK418 Norway_Nordland 1502
VK419 Norway_Nordland 1522
VK388 Norway_Nordland 253
VK524 Norway_Nordland 3708
VK525 Norway_Nordland 3709
VK530 Norway_Nordland 4511
VK515 Norway_Nordland 4512
VK518 Norway_Nordland 4689
VK519 Norway_Nordland 4691b
VK547 Norway_Nordland 4727
VK514 Norway_Nordland 5195
VK526 Norway_Nordland 5317
VK529 Norway_Nordland 642
VK414 Norway_Oppland 1517
VK415 Norway_Oppland 1520
VK417 Norway_Oppland 2808-2
VK421 Norway_Oppland 3777
VK387 Norway_Oppland 3778
VK386 Norway_Oppland 5305
VK523 Norway_Sor-Trondelag 3699
VK516 Norway_Sor-Trondelag 4481
VK392 Norway_Telemark 1645
VK390 Norway_Telemark 1648-A
VK391 Norway_Telemark 1648-B
VK389 Norway_Telemark 3697
VK528 Norway_Troms 4049
VK520 Norway_Troms 4184
VK531 Norway_Troms 5001A
VK113 Norway_Trondheim_SK223
VK118 Norway_Trondheim_SK271
VK117 Norway_Trondheim_SK328
VK114 Norway_Trondheim_SK332
VK124 Norway_Trondheim_SK356
VK125 Norway_Trondheim_SK367
VK116 Norway_Trondheim_SK372
VK522 Oland 1052 24846 13
VK533 Oland 1076 28364 35
VK579 Oland 1099 1785/67 35
VK442 Oland_1008
VK352 Oland_1012
VK342 Oland_1016
VK343 Oland_1021
VK353 Oland_1024
VK354 Oland_1026
VK333 Oland_1028
VK344 Oland_1030
VK345 Oland_1045
VK355 Oland_1046
VK346 Oland_1057
VK334 Oland_1058
VK444 Oland_1059
VK337 Oland_1064
VK347 Oland_1065
VK348 Oland_1067
VK335 Oland_1068
VK349 Oland_1073
VK336 Oland_1075
VK379 Oland_1077
VK380 Oland_1078
VK350 Oland_1086
VK332 Oland_1088
VK357 Oland_1097
VK443 Oland_1101
VK358 Oland_1105
VK359 Oland_1130
VK382 Oland_1132
VK202 Orkney_Buckquoy, sk 7B
VK201 Orkney_Buckquoy, sk M12
VK207 Orkney_BY78, Ar. 1, sk 1
VK208 Orkney_BY78, Ar. 1, sk 2
VK203 Orkney_BY78, Ar. 1, sk 3
VK205 Orkney_Newark 68/12
VK206 Orkney_Newark 71(13)
VK204 Orkney_Newark for Brothwell
VK153 Poland_Bodzia B1
VK154 Poland_Bodzia B2
VK155 Poland_Bodzia B3
VK156 Poland_Bodzia B4
VK157 Poland_Bodzia B5
VK211 Poland_Cedynia gr. 435
VK212 Poland_Cedynia gr. 558
VK200 Poland_Czersk gr. 609
VK210 Poland_Kraków-Zakrzowek gr. 24
VK494 Poland_Sandomierz 43478

VK222 Russia_Gnezdovo 60-95
VK223 Russia_Gnezdovo 75-140
VK470 Russia_Gnezdovo 77-212
VK466 Russia_Gnezdovo 77-222
VK272 Russia_Gnezdovo 77-241(g)
VK273 Russia_Gnezdovo 77-255
VK224 Russia_Gnezdovo 78-249
VK252 Russia_Gnezdovo 78-258
VK253 Russia_Gnezdovo 78-262
VK254 Russia_Gnezdovo 81-287
VK413 Russia_Gnezdovo 81-290
VK255 Russia_Gnezdovo 81-292
VK160 Russia_Kurevanikka_7283-3
VK161 Russia_Kurevanikka_7283-4
VK20 Russia_Ladoga_5680-1
VK219 Russia_Ladoga_5680-10
VK220 Russia_Ladoga_5680-11
VK14 Russia_Ladoga_5680-12
VK22 Russia_Ladoga_5680-13
VK409 Russia_Ladoga_5680-14
VK410 Russia_Ladoga_5680-15
VK15 Russia_Ladoga_5680-16
VK17 Russia_Ladoga_5680-17
VK21 Russia_Ladoga_5680-18
VK16 Russia_Ladoga_5680-2
VK18 Russia_Ladoga_5680-3
VK218 Russia_Ladoga_5680-4
VK23 Russia_Ladoga_5680-9
VK19 Russia_Ladoga_5757-1
VK221 Russia_Ladoga_5757-14
VK408 Russia_Ladoga_5757-18
VK158 Russia_Pskov_7283-18
VK159 Russia_Pskov_7283-20
VK582 SBM1028 ALKEN ENGE 2013, X2244
VK521 Sol941 Grav900 Brondsager Torsiinre
VK265 Sweden_Karda 17
VK266 Sweden_Karda 19
VK267 Sweden_Karda 21
VK268 Sweden_Karda 22
VK269 Sweden_Karda 24
VK270 Sweden_Karda 25
VK108 Sweden_Ljungbacka
VK217 Sweden_Ljungbacka
VK308 Sweden_Skara 101
VK30 Sweden_Skara 105
VK40 Sweden_Skara 106
VK35 Sweden_Skara 118
VK34 Sweden_Skara 135
VK396 Sweden_Skara 166
VK29 Sweden_Skara 17
VK33 Sweden_Skara 175
VK39 Sweden_Skara 181
VK31 Sweden_Skara 194
VK406 Sweden_Skara 203
VK427 Sweden_Skara 209
VK426 Sweden_Skara 216
VK403 Sweden_Skara 217
VK401 Sweden_Skara 229
VK398 Sweden_Skara 231
VK400 Sweden_Skara 236
VK397 Sweden_Skara 237
VK303 Sweden_Skara 27
VK424 Sweden_Skara 273
VK407 Sweden_Skara 274
VK395 Sweden_Skara 275
VK399 Sweden_Skara 276
VK404 Sweden_Skara 277
VK306 Sweden_Skara 33
VK304 Sweden_Skara 36
VK402 Sweden_Skara 38
VK425 Sweden_Skara 44
VK309 Sweden_Skara 53
VK42 Sweden_Skara 62
VK405 Sweden_Skara 83
VK527 Sweden_Uppsala_UM36031_621
VK517 Sweden_Uppsala_UM36031_623b
VK256 UK_Dorset-3722
VK257 UK_Dorset-3723
VK258 UK_Dorset-3733
VK259 UK_Dorset-3734
VK260 UK_Dorset-3735
VK261 UK_Dorset-3736
VK262 UK_Dorset-3739
VK263 UK_Dorset-3742
VK264 UK_Dorset-3744
VK449 UK_Dorset-3746
VK163 UK_Oxford_#1
VK164 UK_Oxford_#2
VK146 UK_Oxford_#10
VK147 UK_Oxford_#11
VK148 UK_Oxford_#12
VK149 UK_Oxford_#13
VK150 UK_Oxford_#14
VK151 UK_Oxford_#15
VK172 UK_Oxford_#16
VK173 UK_Oxford_#17
VK174 UK_Oxford_#18
VK175 UK_Oxford_#19
VK176 UK_Oxford_#20
VK177 UK_Oxford_#21
VK178 UK_Oxford_#22
VK165 UK_Oxford_#3
VK166 UK_Oxford_#4
VK167 UK_Oxford_#5
VK168 UK_Oxford_#6
VK143 UK_Oxford_#7
VK144 UK_Oxford_#8
VK145 UK_Oxford_#9
VK542 Ukraine_Chernigov
VK541 Ukraine_Lutsk
VK539 Ukraine_Shestovitsa-8870-97
VK540 Ukraine_Shestovitsa-8871-96
VK171 Wales_Cardiff_burial#4

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post 17/09/2020, 13:22 Quote Post

I moze jeszcze probki z I-CTS10228, czyli VK542 oraz VK53?
 
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No i czekam z niecierpliwoscia na analize probek R-L1029 (VK139, VK160 oraz VK541) smile.gif
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Pribislav podał już na Anthrogenice wyniki swojej analizy dla próbki VK541. Według niego to subklad L1029>YP593.
 
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Nie wszystkie próbki są datowane na epokę wikingów:

VK171 Wales VikingAge
VK540 Ukraine VikingAge
VK539 Ukraine VikingAge
VK542 Ukraine VikingAge
VK541 Ukraine Medieval
VK144 UK VikingAge
VK167 UK VikingAge
VK148 UK VikingAge
VK149 UK VikingAge
VK163 UK VikingAge
VK164 UK VikingAge
VK256 UK VikingAge
VK257 UK VikingAge
VK258 UK VikingAge
VK259 UK VikingAge
VK260 UK VikingAge
VK261 UK VikingAge
VK262 UK VikingAge
VK263 UK VikingAge
VK264 UK VikingAge
VK449 UK VikingAge
VK143 UK VikingAge
VK145 UK VikingAge
VK146 UK VikingAge
VK147 UK VikingAge
VK150 UK VikingAge
VK151 UK VikingAge
VK165 UK VikingAge
VK166 UK VikingAge
VK168 UK VikingAge
VK172 UK VikingAge
VK173 UK VikingAge
VK174 UK VikingAge
VK175 UK VikingAge
VK176 UK VikingAge
VK177 UK VikingAge
VK178 UK VikingAge
VK354 Sweden VikingAge
VK527 Sweden VikingAge
VK33 Sweden VikingAge
VK467 Sweden VikingAge
VK251 Sweden VikingAge
VK435 Sweden VikingAge
VK437 Sweden VikingAge
VK440 Sweden VikingAge
VK441 Sweden VikingAge
VK462 Sweden VikingAge
VK464 Sweden VikingAge
VK472 Sweden VikingAge
VK267 Sweden VikingAge
VK269 Sweden VikingAge
VK270 Sweden VikingAge
VK347 Sweden VikingAge
VK304 Sweden VikingAge
VK232 Sweden VikingAge
VK428 Sweden VikingAge
VK429 Sweden VikingAge
VK430 Sweden VikingAge
VK431 Sweden VikingAge
VK432 Sweden VikingAge
VK433 Sweden VikingAge
VK434 Sweden VikingAge
VK438 Sweden VikingAge
VK439 Sweden VikingAge
VK450 Sweden VikingAge
VK452 Sweden VikingAge
VK453 Sweden VikingAge
VK454 Sweden VikingAge
VK455 Sweden VikingAge
VK456 Sweden VikingAge
VK457 Sweden VikingAge
VK458 Sweden VikingAge
VK459 Sweden VikingAge
VK460 Sweden VikingAge
VK461 Sweden VikingAge
VK463 Sweden VikingAge
VK468 Sweden VikingAge
VK469 Sweden VikingAge
VK471 Sweden VikingAge
VK473 Sweden VikingAge
VK474 Sweden VikingAge
VK475 Sweden VikingAge
VK476 Sweden VikingAge
VK477 Sweden VikingAge
VK478 Sweden VikingAge
VK479 Sweden VikingAge
VK48 Sweden VikingAge
VK50 Sweden VikingAge
VK51 Sweden VikingAge
VK53 Sweden VikingAge
VK56 Sweden VikingAge
VK57 Sweden VikingAge
VK58 Sweden VikingAge
VK60 Sweden VikingAge
VK63 Sweden VikingAge
VK64 Sweden VikingAge
VK265 Sweden VikingAge
VK266 Sweden VikingAge
VK268 Sweden VikingAge
VK108 Sweden VikingAge
VK217 Sweden VikingAge
VK332 Sweden VikingAge
VK333 Sweden VikingAge
VK334 Sweden VikingAge
VK335 Sweden VikingAge
VK336 Sweden VikingAge
VK337 Sweden VikingAge
VK342 Sweden VikingAge
VK343 Sweden VikingAge
VK344 Sweden VikingAge
VK345 Sweden VikingAge
VK346 Sweden VikingAge
VK348 Sweden VikingAge
VK349 Sweden VikingAge
VK350 Sweden VikingAge
VK352 Sweden VikingAge
VK353 Sweden VikingAge
VK355 Sweden VikingAge
VK357 Sweden VikingAge
VK358 Sweden VikingAge
VK380 Sweden VikingAge
VK442 Sweden VikingAge
VK443 Sweden VikingAge
VK444 Sweden VikingAge
VK533 Sweden VikingAge
VK29 Sweden VikingAge
VK30 Sweden VikingAge
VK303 Sweden VikingAge
VK306 Sweden VikingAge
VK308 Sweden VikingAge
VK309 Sweden VikingAge
VK31 Sweden VikingAge
VK34 Sweden VikingAge
VK35 Sweden VikingAge
VK39 Sweden VikingAge
VK395 Sweden VikingAge
VK396 Sweden VikingAge
VK397 Sweden VikingAge
VK398 Sweden VikingAge
VK399 Sweden VikingAge
VK40 Sweden VikingAge
VK400 Sweden VikingAge
VK401 Sweden VikingAge
VK402 Sweden VikingAge
VK403 Sweden VikingAge
VK404 Sweden VikingAge
VK405 Sweden VikingAge
VK406 Sweden VikingAge
VK407 Sweden VikingAge
VK42 Sweden VikingAge
VK424 Sweden VikingAge
VK425 Sweden VikingAge
VK426 Sweden VikingAge
VK427 Sweden VikingAge
VK517 Sweden VikingAge
VK557 Sweden VikingAge
VK558 Sweden VikingAge
VK559 Sweden VikingAge
VK560 Sweden VikingAge
VK561 Sweden VikingAge
VK562 Sweden VikingAge
VK564 Sweden VikingAge
VK565 Sweden VikingAge
VK566 Sweden VikingAge
VK567 Sweden VikingAge
VK568 Sweden VikingAge
VK569 Sweden VikingAge
VK570 Sweden VikingAge
VK571 Sweden VikingAge
VK572 Sweden VikingAge
VK573 Sweden VikingAge
VK574 Sweden VikingAge
VK575 Sweden VikingAge
VK576 Sweden VikingAge
VK577 Sweden VikingAge
VK578 Sweden VikingAge
VK522 Sweden IronAge
VK579 Sweden IronAge
VK359 Sweden EarlyVikingAge
VK379 Sweden EarlyVikingAge
VK382 Sweden EarlyVikingAge
VK408 Russia VikingAge
VK158 Russia VikingAge
VK222 Russia VikingAge
VK252 Russia VikingAge
VK253 Russia VikingAge
VK255 Russia VikingAge
VK413 Russia VikingAge
VK470 Russia VikingAge
VK161 Russia VikingAge
VK223 Russia VikingAge
VK224 Russia VikingAge
VK254 Russia VikingAge
VK272 Russia VikingAge
VK273 Russia VikingAge
VK466 Russia VikingAge
VK160 Russia VikingAge
VK14 Russia VikingAge
VK15 Russia VikingAge
VK16 Russia VikingAge
VK17 Russia VikingAge
VK18 Russia VikingAge
VK19 Russia VikingAge
VK20 Russia VikingAge
VK21 Russia VikingAge
VK218 Russia VikingAge
VK219 Russia VikingAge
VK22 Russia VikingAge
VK220 Russia VikingAge
VK221 Russia VikingAge
VK23 Russia VikingAge
VK409 Russia VikingAge
VK410 Russia VikingAge
VK159 Russia VikingAge
VK156 Poland VikingAge
VK155 Poland VikingAge
VK153 Poland VikingAge
VK200 Poland VikingAge
VK154 Poland VikingAge
VK157 Poland VikingAge
VK212 Poland VikingAge
VK494 Poland VikingAge
VK210 Poland Medieval
VK211 Poland Medieval

VK206 Orkney VikingAge
VK208 Orkney VikingAge
VK201 Orkney VikingAge
VK202 Orkney VikingAge
VK203 Orkney VikingAge
VK204 Orkney VikingAge
VK205 Orkney VikingAge
VK207 Orkney VikingAge
VK518 Norway VikingAge
VK519 Norway VikingAge
VK421 Norway VikingAge
VK516 Norway VikingAge
VK548 Norway VikingAge
VK388 Norway VikingAge
VK419 Norway VikingAge
VK514 Norway VikingAge
VK515 Norway VikingAge
VK520 Norway VikingAge
VK524 Norway VikingAge
VK525 Norway VikingAge
VK526 Norway VikingAge
VK528 Norway VikingAge
VK529 Norway VikingAge
VK530 Norway VikingAge
VK547 Norway VikingAge
VK386 Norway VikingAge
VK387 Norway VikingAge
VK389 Norway VikingAge
VK392 Norway VikingAge
VK393 Norway VikingAge
VK394 Norway VikingAge
VK414 Norway VikingAge
VK415 Norway VikingAge
VK417 Norway VikingAge
VK420 Norway VikingAge
VK422 Norway VikingAge
VK448 Norway VikingAge
VK116 Norway Medieval
VK125 Norway Medieval
VK113 Norway Medieval
VK114 Norway Medieval
VK117 Norway Medieval
VK118 Norway Medieval
VK124 Norway Medieval
VK531 Norway LNBA
VK390 Norway IronAge
VK391 Norway IronAge
VK418 Norway IronAge
VK523 Norway IronAge
VK534 Italy Medieval
VK535 Italy Medieval
VK536 Italy Medieval
VK537 Italy Medieval
VK538 Italy Medieval
VK170 IsleOfMan VikingAge
VK546 Ireland VikingAge
VK543 Ireland VikingAge
VK544 Ireland VikingAge
VK545 Ireland VikingAge
VK110 Iceland VikingAge
VK111 Iceland VikingAge
VK226 Iceland VikingAge
VK228 Iceland VikingAge
VK101 Iceland VikingAge
VK102 Iceland VikingAge
VK122 Iceland VikingAge
VK123 Iceland VikingAge
VK127 Iceland VikingAge
VK128 Iceland VikingAge
VK129 Iceland VikingAge
VK225 Iceland VikingAge
VK227 Iceland VikingAge
VK230 Iceland VikingAge
VK95 Iceland VikingAge
VK98 Iceland VikingAge
VK99 Iceland VikingAge
VK191 Greenland LateNorse
VK189 Greenland LateNorse
VK74 Greenland LateNorse
VK76 Greenland LateNorse
VK77 Greenland LateNorse
VK78 Greenland LateNorse
VK190 Greenland LateNorse
VK75 Greenland LateNorse
VK11 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK180 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK182 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK185 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK193 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK196 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK9 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK1 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK179 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK183 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK184 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK186 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK187 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK513 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK6 Greenland EarlyNorse
VK24 Faroes VikingAge
VK244 Faroes Medieval
VK245 Faroes Medieval
VK45 Faroes Medieval
VK238 Faroes Medieval
VK242 Faroes Medieval
VK44 Faroes Medieval
VK234 Faroes Medieval
VK236 Faroes Medieval
VK239 Faroes Medieval
VK248 Faroes Medieval
VK237 Faroes Medieval
VK240 Faroes Medieval
VK241 Faroes Medieval
VK25 Faroes Medieval
VK27 Faroes Medieval
VK46 Faroes Medieval
VK485 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK490 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK497 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK480 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK481 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK482 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK483 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK484 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK486 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK487 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK488 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK489 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK491 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK492 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK493 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK495 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK496 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK498 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK504 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK505 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK506 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK507 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK508 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK509 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK510 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK511 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK512 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK549 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK550 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK551 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK552 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK553 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK554 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK555 Estonia EarlyVikingAge
VK133 Denmark VikingAge
VK135 Denmark VikingAge
VK140 Denmark VikingAge
VK411 Denmark VikingAge
VK339 Denmark VikingAge
VK383 Denmark VikingAge
VK86 Denmark VikingAge
VK318 Denmark VikingAge
VK215 Denmark VikingAge
VK216 Denmark VikingAge
VK247 Denmark VikingAge
VK134 Denmark VikingAge
VK138 Denmark VikingAge
VK139 Denmark VikingAge
VK141 Denmark VikingAge
VK278 Denmark VikingAge
VK279 Denmark VikingAge
VK280 Denmark VikingAge
VK295 Denmark VikingAge
VK301 Denmark VikingAge
VK312 Denmark VikingAge
VK313 Denmark VikingAge
VK314 Denmark VikingAge
VK316 Denmark VikingAge
VK319 Denmark VikingAge
VK370 Denmark VikingAge
VK371 Denmark VikingAge
VK372 Denmark VikingAge
VK373 Denmark VikingAge
VK446 Denmark VikingAge
VK300 Denmark VikingAge
VK322 Denmark VikingAge
VK323 Denmark VikingAge
VK324 Denmark VikingAge
VK325 Denmark VikingAge
VK326 Denmark VikingAge
VK327 Denmark VikingAge
VK328 Denmark VikingAge
VK329 Denmark VikingAge
VK330 Denmark VikingAge
VK340 Denmark VikingAge
VK384 Denmark VikingAge
VK84 Denmark VikingAge
VK87 Denmark VikingAge
VK274 Denmark VikingAge
VK275 Denmark VikingAge
VK276 Denmark VikingAge
VK282 Denmark VikingAge
VK285 Denmark VikingAge
VK286 Denmark VikingAge
VK287 Denmark VikingAge
VK288 Denmark VikingAge
VK289 Denmark VikingAge
VK290 Denmark VikingAge
VK291 Denmark VikingAge
VK292 Denmark VikingAge
VK317 Denmark VikingAge
VK320 Denmark VikingAge
VK338 Denmark VikingAge
VK361 Denmark VikingAge
VK362 Denmark VikingAge
VK363 Denmark VikingAge
VK364 Denmark VikingAge
VK365 Denmark VikingAge
VK366 Denmark VikingAge
VK367 Denmark VikingAge
VK368 Denmark VikingAge
VK281 Denmark VikingAge
VK284 Denmark VikingAge
VK294 Denmark VikingAge
VK298 Denmark VikingAge
VK315 Denmark VikingAge
VK369 Denmark VikingAge
VK385 Denmark VikingAge
VK445 Denmark VikingAge
VK90 Denmark VikingAge
VK92 Denmark VikingAge
VK94 Denmark VikingAge
VK214 Denmark LNBA
VK213 Denmark IronAge
VK521 Denmark IronAge
VK532 Denmark IronAge
VK582 Denmark IronAge
VK296 Denmark EarlyVikingAge
VK297 Denmark EarlyVikingAge
VK65 Denmark EarlyVikingAge
VK69 Denmark EarlyVikingAge
VK70 Denmark EarlyVikingAge
VK71 Denmark EarlyVikingAge

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No i czekam z niecierpliwoscia na analize probek R-L1029 (VK139, VK160 oraz VK541) smile.gif
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Pribislav podał już na Anthrogenice wyniki swojej analizy dla próbki VK541. Według niego to subklad L1029>YP593.
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Przypomne tylko, ze to kniaz Izjaslaw Ingwarowicz polegly w bitwie nad rzeka Kalka, pochowany na zamku w Lucku.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP593/

Zobaczymy co pokaza analizy auDNA.

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QUOTE(Radek8484 @ 17/09/2020, 14:00)
QUOTE(Michał.. @ 17/09/2020, 13:22)
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No i czekam z niecierpliwoscia na analize probek R-L1029 (VK139, VK160 oraz VK541) smile.gif
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Pribislav podał już na Anthrogenice wyniki swojej analizy dla próbki VK541. Według niego to subklad L1029>YP593.
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Przypomne tylko, ze to kniaz Izjaslaw Ingwarowicz polegly w bitwie nad rzeka Kalka, pochowany na zamku w Lucku.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP593/

Zobaczymy co pokaza analizy auDNA.
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Ta sama linia co podobno Piotr Wlostowic wink.gif

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Przypomne tylko, ze to kniaz Izjaslaw Ingwarowicz polegly w bitwie nad rzeka Kalka, pochowany na zamku w Lucku.
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Powiedziałbym raczej że to domniemany kniaź Izjasław Ingwarowicz. Czaszkę znaleziony w 1989 roku podczas badań archeologicznych w grobowcu na terenie zamku łuckiego. Tkwił w niej grot strzały. Wiek mężczyzny datowany antropologicznie na 30-40 lat. Grób pochodzi z okresu obejmującego koniec XII i początek XIII wieku. Bitwa nad Kałką to rok 1223, więc mniej więcej pasuje.

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VK210 z Krakowa haplogrupa I2a to próbka późniejsza niż epoka wikingów, datowana na XI-XIII wiek.

Czyli to z populacji Krakowa przedlokacyjnego, ciekawe czy będzie podobny do obecnych Małopolan?

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Cedynia też powinna być ciekawa, młodsza z dwóch próbek to już chyba może być jakiś niemiecki osadnik.

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Ta sama linia co podobno Piotr Wlostowic wink.gif
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Ten sam subklad YP593. Według projektu polskiego w FTDNA należy do niego ok. 2,4% Polaków, więc jest dosyć częsty. Gdyby u obu (tzn. u Izjasława i Dunina-Wąsowicza) znaleziono jakąś wspólną nową mutację poniżej YP593, to już byłoby coś dużo ciekawszego.

Według YFull najbliższy wspólny przodek wszystkich współczesnych linii YP593 żył 1900 lat temu (a jeśli uwzględnić poprawkę na podejrzewane niedoszacowanie w wynikach YFull, to nawet trochę wcześniej), więc było sporo czasu na rozplenienie się tego subkladu wśród Prasłowian i wczesnych Słowian.

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Na razie VK200 Poland_Czersk gr. 609 bo najmniejszy.


K36
Basque 10,03
Central_Euro 19,92
East_Balkan 6,10
East_Central_Euro 13,35
Eastern_Euro 9,45
Fennoscandian 28,03
French 2,15
North_Atlantic 4,94
North_Sea 5,35
Volga-Ural 0,69


dystanse

Estonian_NW
Estonian_Tallin
NE-Ostpreussen
RU_Starover_Siberia
RU_Kotlas
Estonian_NE
RU_Novgorod
Estonian_south
RU_Tver
RU_Kostroma

Vahaduo

ADC: 2x
52.6 Estonian_NW
29.8 Estonian_Tallin
17.6 NE-Ostpreussen

ADC: 1x
39.2 Estonian_NW
35.2 NE-Ostpreussen
25.6 Estonian_Tallin

ADC: 0.5x
36.0 NE-Ostpreussen
27.4 Swede_Finland
17.6 PL_Central
15.0 Estonian_Tallin
4.0 Finn

ADC: 0.25x
56.6 NE-Ostpreussen
19.8 Finn_east_and_north
17.4 PL_Central
3.0 ES_Pais_Vasco
1.6 Swede_Finland
1.6 Tatar_Turkestan

ADC 0x
40.8 NE-Ostpreussen
23.2 Finn_east_and_north
19.4 Ukraine_Zhytomyr
8.4 PL_Central
6.0 ES_Pais_Vasco
1.0 NL_Overijssel
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An elite grave. Adult male of about 60 years old, oriented east-west, facing east (a typical Christian orientation of that time). The height of the individual was about 180 cm (according to M. Trotter and G. Gleser). The deceased was buried in a wooden coffin with iron ferrules. He was buried in a supine position, on the back, right hand straight along the body, left arm bent in the elbow and supported by hand on the pelvis, legs straight. A double-edged iron sword (type α according to A. Nadolski103) was found at the left pelvic bone. In addition, the following items were discovered: two bronze bowls (type VI according to T. Poklewski), an iron spearhead (type V according to Nadolski), a wooden bucket covered with decorated iron sheet, a golden ring, and a thin, silver, spirally wound wire (alloy of silver with copper and gold). Archaeological dating based on a typology of the sword, the spearhead, and the bronze bowls puts the burial at the end of the 11th century CE or the first half of the 12th century CE (most probably the beginning of the 12th century). A 14C analysis of a bone sample carried out by the Poznań Radiocarbon Laboratory yielded a date of 1085±30 BP (Poz-68711). The date is affected by the reservoir effect as a result of significant consumption of marine fish (demonstrated by Nitrogen and Carbon isotope values). After correction, it can be calibrated to 1050-1200 CE, which is consistent with the typology-based date. The grave was situated near the church. According to some scholars, grave 609 is the burial of Magnus Haroldson (chyba jednak nie wink.gif), one of three sons of Harold II Godwinson, the last Anglo-Saxon king of England. Nitrogen and Carbon isotopes extracted from a rib sample suggested tthat sea fish and/or anadromous fish (e.g. sturgeon) were an important part of the diet of this individual. This type of diet was unusual for the region and time period and is very different from any known studied Polish populations. The Nitrogen and Carbon isotope analyses were carried out at the Stable Isotope Facility, University of Bradford, UK. The result of a strontium isotope analysis were ambiguous in that it was not possible to determine whether the individual was of local origin or was a newcomer. The 87Sr/86Sr value obtained for the first molar is found in both areas with post-glacial deposits as well as areas with marine carbonate rocks or clastic rocks such as loess. Such values occur in northern Poland and other parts of Europe (e.g. southern Scandinavia). However, there was a difference in strontium values between the first molar (complete mineralization to about 4.5 years of age) and a rib (reflecting the last two to four years of life), which may indicate that the individual spent his adulthood (including the last years of his life) in a different place than his childhood. This would indicate that the man buried in the grave 609 changed his place of residence during his lifetime. The strontium analyses were carried out at the Geochronology and Isotope Geochemistry Laboratory of the University of North Carolina.

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Próbka Cedynia_VK212 dystanse do współczesnych populacji, bardzo bałto-słowiańskie wyniki:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
RUS_Smolensk
1.088924
BY_Vitebsk
1.112199
BY_Minsk
1.134548
RUS_Moscow
1.202531
RUS_Pskov
1.228250
LT_Lithuania-Alytus
1.258928
UA_Kharkiv
1.266253
BY_Grodno
1.267920
RUS_Tambov
1.271017
RUS_Kursk
1.284675
EE_Inflanty-Poles
1.284868
UA_Rivne-Oblast
1.296161
UA_Kiev
1.317445
LT_Lithuania-Panevezys
1.317630
UA_Cherkasy
1.324493
LT_Lithuania-Utena
1.336374
UA_Sumy-Oblast
1.340012
(...)

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Wygląda jak Kresowiacy mieszkający obecnie w Cedynii... smile.gif

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Próbka Cedynia_VK211 to jest Niemiec, najbliżej ma do wczesnośredniowiecznych Bajuwarów:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
DE_Bavaria-Medieval
1.578179
DE_Schleswig-Nordfriesland
1.638440
DK_Lolland
1.652413
(...)

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Średniowieczny Sandomierz, osobnik VK494 - najbliżej ma do dzisiejszych Mazowszan:

Sandomierz_VK494

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
PL_Mazowieckie
0.9647196
RUS_Pskov
1.0047751
BY_Mogilev
1.0247736
PL_Podlaskie
1.0353782
BY_Brest-Region
1.0574682
LT_Lithuania-Kaunas
1.0725502
BY_Minsk
1.0844072
(...)

Ta z Krakowa VK210 jest słabej jakości chyba, mlukas sprawdzałeś już ją?

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